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No Chuck Norris, the UN will not Take Your Guns Away

I kind of feel like a broken record on this, but it would seem as if a certain cadre of gun owners and second amendment advocates are unable to be convinced that a proposed UN Arms Trade Treaty has nothing at all to do with their own ability to bear guns.  Chuck Norris pens the latest iteration of this paranoid view in the Politico. (Seriously, Politico?)

An Arms Trade Treaty doesn’t sound bad in concept — isn’t that what the U.N. is for? The problem, however, is what U.N. diplomats consider to be “arms.” To you and me, the word means tanks, fighter jets, missiles, that kind of thing. But look no further than the U.N. plaza to see what the silk-stocking set considers “arms.” There you will find a bronze statue of a simple .38 revolver — with its barrel tied into a knot.

Remember no other country in the world enjoys America’s constitutional right to keep and bear arms. This is why the vast majority of U.N. diplomats believe that an arms trade treaty must reach into your gun safe and mine. There is little question that this treaty would require additional restrictions on our Second Amendment rights.

This is not only false –  it is the opposite of true. At the instance of the Obama administration the seventh paragraph of the preamble to the founding document of the ATT says:

Acknowledging also the right of States to regulate internal transfers of arms and national ownership, including through national constitutional protections on private ownership, exclusively within their territory.

That principal was not agreed to by “vast majority” of UN member states.  It was adopted by consensus, meaning that EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY agreed to it.

Over at TPM, Thomas Lane adds:

What’s actually ironic is that the treaty basically aims to do exactly what Norris says he wishes it would: to bring “other nations’ patchy regulations” in line with the regulatory regime of the US. Jeff Abramson, the coordinator of the pro-treaty Control Arms Secretariat, told TPM, “[Second Amendment-citing] critics say the sky will fall, but the things the treaty suggests already exist in the US. It’s hard to see where the US would need to make changes to its existing national laws.”

Well said. Somehow, though, I don’t think we are going to get through to him on this one.


  • http://twitter.com/ChrisCicc Chris Cicchitelli

    This doesn’t explain Obama’s comments on the proposed treaty, along with his comments to Mrs. Brady. Chuck Norris is right.

  • http://twitter.com/ChrisCicc Chris Cicchitelli

    This doesn’t explain Obama’s comments on the proposed treaty, along with his comments to Mrs. Brady. Chuck Norris is right.

  • Nothing

    chuck is better then you

  • Nothing

    chuck is better then you

  • Carl from Chicago

    Mark:

    You are an effective apologist.  “Don’t worry, you silly gun owners, we don’t want to ban your guns.”  That’s what gun ban people told the Brits, the Aussies, etc.

    Then we read ATT statements like this … “The draft Bill establishes a principle that has developed globally in
    the last decade, and is a core objective of many government’s efforts to
    strengthen their national legislation: “the possession and use of
    weapons is a privilege that is conditional on the overriding need to
    ensure public safety.””

    Gun ownership is a privilege that governments (or the UN) can take away whenever they feel justified in doing so.  Perhaps even if they don’t feel justified in doing so.  Yes, it is a core objective of many governments efforts to ban guns … pitch it unequivocally as “we cannot have public safety without banning guns.”  While this is debatable, gun controllers don’t debate.  They push their agenda by whatever means.

    So, gun owners are skeptical, and will always remain skeptical.  You want to reduce gun violence?  Work to stabilize governments, reduce corruption, and encourage people to live right.  Accomplishing that would be easier, and far more effective, than banning guns.

  • Wes Tower

    No but what the UN Treaty would do is try and take guns away in 3rd world nations where the populace is terrorized by thuggish regimes and banditry motivated alleged ‘rebels’. The right to self defense is an inherent right recognized by much of Western civilization for centuries. So why is it good enough for us to have the right, but try and deny it to various less developed countries?  

  • Anonymous

    Lets see, the number one financier of the UN, the US, puts forth the paragraph on internal states rights and the UN would say no in any fashion, lol, lets get real dude, money talks and any claim or belief the UN members had any chance to refuse this is rather naieve.

    Next, to the real crux of this proposed treaty, how much of the firearms industry is outside the US and what does all this anti gun mumbo jumbo do to effect the importation of components and materials the firearms industry uses?

    What would be the material and cost effect on those components eh? Come on, you know the basic business principle of supply and demand. What happens when a commodity declines in supply or the component costs are inflated due to bureaucratic ka ka? Why the price goes up. Then what happens to all those who are then unable to pay for the material and components and can no longer practice their right? Well then it becomes only the rich and priviledged that can afford to do so. Just what the gun banners want and very skillfully. You eat an elephant one bite at a time.

    So tell us, why should we sign off on a useless treaty, when our regulations already exist?

    Gun control, whether it is in the background like this, is still gun control

  • Samj44

    And we should trust the assurances of the UN and the Obama administration and their statist allies because….?

    • http://twitter.com/ande8502 Thomas Anderson

       because we’re not crazy and paranoid like you

      • Anonymous

        Approval

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