Jan Egeland fights disasters–natural and manmade. Currently the head of the Norwegian Refugee Council and formerly the top humanitarian emergency official at the United Nations, Egeland discusses his career on the front lines of the world’s most urgent humanitarian crises. Jan Egeland and Mark kick off with a discussion about the crisis in Syria and its global humanitarian consequences, then pivot to a discussion about Egeland’s fascinating life and career. (And yes, the Ylvis parody video is discussed!) It’s a great conversation for people who want to learn about how the international community responds to humanitarian challenges around the world.