China is by far the world’s largest importer of soy, which is uses mostly as feed for pigs. Brazil is the second largest soybean producer in the world, after the United States, and the vast majority of Brazilian soy ends up in China.

In recent years, as the trade war between the United States and China threatened to disrupt Chinese soy supplies, Beijing began making big investments in Brazil. This includes a potential new railway — the so-called “grain train” — that would link Brazilian soy fields to its ports. The problem is, from an environmental point of view, these fields are mostly in the heart of the lush Amazon rainforest.

As Chinese demands for Brazilian soy have increased, so too has the pace of deforestation.

Melissa Chan co-authored a piece in The Atlantic that examines the impact that Chinese demand for soy is having on the region of Brazil where it is mostly grown. The piece, titled: China Wants Food. Brazil Pays the Price, was supported by the Pulitzer Center. Melissa Chan’s co-author is Heriberto Araujo.

We kick off discussing the significance of a single road in the Amazon called BR-163, before having a broader conversation about the relationship between china, brazil, soybeans and climate change.

This is one of those stories that has such immense explanatory power that touches on geo-politics, the rise of China and the power of Chinese consumers, and of course, climate change.

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