You can draw a line from  September 11 2001 to January 6 2021.

In the new book Reign of Terror: How the 9/11 Era Destabilized America and Produced Trump  journalist Spencer Ackerman offers an intense examination of how a never ending war on terror became an embedded and malignant force in American civic life.

This is one of the most important foreign policy books of a generation. Spencer Ackerman, on the podcast today, is a Pulitzer Prize and National Magazine Award winning reporter who has worked for WiredThe GuardianThe Daily Beast and is now the publisher of the Forever Wars newsletter on Substack.

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